Rock Garden Hack 3.2.7 + Redeem Codes

This app totally outclasses mountain project and any other online guidebook I’ve seen.
You can definitely tell it’s still in beta, but the what they have already done is incredible. Can’t really recommend it to actually use as of right now unless you plan on climbing in Utah or Arizona, but very excited to see where this thing goes.

I really want this to be one star, but it’s a killer idea, and the devs are definitely headed in the right direction. Honestly, this is probably the next evolution of the guidebook, and it’s sick.

That said, I don’t think it was ready for publication. Both 2D and 3D nav are more complicated than they need to be, and 3D isn’t using established methodology for navigating a 3D space with a touch device. It’s much more intuitive to control the camera as opposed to controlling the 3D object.

That said, again, those are just wrinkles and the idea is awesome. I loved being able to zoom in on a route and start trying to think my way through it. And being able to find routes quickly is almost game changing if visiting a new area. I wish there was some sort of scale on the route so i understood what I was looking better, maybe bolt placements would fix that. It really is a cool idea, Just maybe released a bit early.

Why is this app so heavy and cumbersome? I should not run into performance issues on an iPhone 12 when simply scrolling the menu. It has tried to be too flashy and fancy, which hinders ease of use. Mountain Project is minimal, maybe even ugly, but it's a smooth and quick experience. IMO this app's menus need to get rid of the high-res photos, move to a list view rather than a card view, make the menus quicker to navigate (MP-style filtering), and get rid of the obnoxious animations (e.g. when loading). I'm a sucker for aesthetics, so I really appreciate the sleek design, I just think it isn't necessary, and really takes away from any usability that would make this app worth long-term usage. The 3D topos are cool, but it took me lots of clicking to find one. Plus, the database is obviously too small to be used by most people, but assuming it remains small, I think it really needs to interface with MP in some way to make it any more than a novelty.

This app is definitely setting the bar high. As a visual person I look for subtle details on my route to locate how far Im up and making sure im staying on track to be safe. The incredible detail provided is mind blowing. This is definitely the future of guiding. It’s about time we use the technology we have to our advantage.

This app is so exciting. I can’t really use it since there aren’t any local crags logged in the database yet, but I’m so excited for when there are! This is going to be a gem for the climbing community. I’m sure it’ll save me a lot of bushwhacking and confusion trying to locate routes.

Interface is nice, but doesn’t run as smoothly as it maybe could. I like the actual 3d renders though, pretty cool and I could see this being useful for visiting new crags. However, I’d like a little better features to navigate the 3d models. And of course being mainly based in Arizona and California there are nearly no routes so it’s not that useful to me. I’d love to see some Sedona formations! Very cool concept and great work so far!

Forget the old guidebooks and Mountain Project: Rock Garden is the future. This is what every digital guidebook will aspire to. 3D models with incredible detail make route planning and ID so much easier. I can’t wait until they expand their routes—as amazing as this app is, it’s only going to get better.

Pretty buggy at this point (even creating an account required me to relaunch), but also a great idea. Not sure how it will scale, since adding areas and climbs will take a lot more work than on user-submitted sites/apps like MP. A “view/hide gear beta” option is needed for trad routes, unless you want to spoil onsights.

Such huge potential, my only ask if you mark fixed anchors along multipitch

This is such an amazing app! Climbing has needed something like this for a long time. Thanks for keeping climbers safe and informed on the different routes out there!